>> yes. and i'll be honest that i've never pursued that. we haven't pursued asking questions further about that because usually we don't fly on private, i guess, charter flights on campaign. this is my first campaign covering so we just took it for granted. >> have you only had bad landings in heavy weather? >> no. we landed in ft. dodge, iowa, earlier and we had another rough landing where we hit. it felt like we went back into the air. you could see the blue sky again. of course we didn't go off the runway at that point. >> i'm just going to put this to you. i've got a -- i went back and looked at my earlier coverage about something involving the mike pence campaign. i am sure this is just coincidental, but this is not the first time that we on this show have talked about issues involving mike pence's campaign plane. and i've never been on that campaign plane so it's not like i was reporting a personal experience. it was late last month we learned that the pilot, who is