been doing a little bit of reporting on them recently but they have not published this audio we are about to play. i don't totally want to spoil it here, but arm chair psychologists, start your engines. this is incredible. >> i went to military academy, new york military academy for five years, from the year before freshman. >> so eighth grade on? >> yes. >> whose idea was this? >> well, i was very rebellious and my parents thought it would be a good idea. i was very rebellious. i loved to fight. i always love to fight. >> physical fights. >> all kinds of fights. physical. >> arguments? >> all types of fights. any kind of fight i loved it, including physical. and i was always the best athlete, something that nobody knew about me. but one guy you should speak to before it's too late, because he's a pretty old guy now, is major dobias. so when dobias was a drill sergeant in the army, and these guys were rough.
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