expecting a hard landing because you've had so many? >> it's a joke. it's a joke how long are we going to last. that's the part the fact that i'm on with you tonight is sort of the interesting end of this. this camera, we've captured a lot of crazy things in this campaign, but to get to the point where this is the news of the night was -- >> wait a second. you're saying it's become a joke how long are we going to last. you're saying that the hard landings on the pence campaign plane specifically are so frequent and so notable that it's a point of discussion among the press corps? >> yes. and i'll be honest that i've never pursued that. we haven't pursued asking questions further about that because usually we don't fly on private, i guess, charter flights on campaign. this is my first campaign covering so we just took it for granted. >> have you only had bad landings in heavy weather? >> no. we landed in ft. dodge, iowa, earlier and we had another rough land wing where we hit. it felt like we went back into the air. you could see the blue sky
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