character into a more sympathetic one by bringing up these women, it's something that endangers our chances of the presidency. clearly donald trump decided this was the route to go. >> it's clear and he brought them in and wanted them to sit in the family or vip section as kelly ann conway described it. the debate commission had to get involved and said, security could be involved if they tried to put these women in. but going back to 1998, donald trump is again on tape saying something different. he called paula jones a loser. >> and said hi commemy commentsn are more controversial. there's a wealth on tape but donald trump is reaching out to sort of the breitbart audience and for hard core fans, it was a big victory. they were galvanized about these women and bill clinton. >> more on what paul ryan is saying. msnbc's kelly o'donnell has reporting for us. what can you tell us happened on that call? >> reporter: i've not heard what