so those aren't new voters. those are the same voters that voted for john mccain and george w. bush and mitt romney. we had to have the politics of addition if we want to win that nationally, donald trump is failing that math. >> there's a more sophisticated version of that argument which is the david wasserman missing white voter thesis, which he wrote in 2012. which he points out, and this is factually true, there are millions and millions of white noncollege voters who just don't vote. they're either not registered or they're registered and they don't vote. there was some sense that maybe trump would be the person to bring those voters sitting offline online and there's maybe some evidence in states like wisconsin or ohio where he is sort of overperforming where you would think he'd be that he is but it still doesn't look like it's going to be enough. >> yeah, i think that's right. the other problem is i do