>> definitely not. >> meet richard bailey. do you know who did? >> no. >> the man stephen miller called a truly evil man and a master criminal. i'm the only one they could come after because i sold a couple of horses to women. >> you are not saying you didn't swindle women. >> no. i swindled women, yes. >> the ladies were not buying horses. the ladies were buying richard. there are women who wanted his attention. they would buy whatever he was selling. it is not unusual. he's not a killer. he is a purveyor. >> did you get basically a life sentence for selling people bum horses?