reference at all to race as we try to almost be postracial and the law has to catch up with the reality when those police officers come to the scene they don't just see a person or a child. they see a black child and does that influence their sense of being threatened because of the lenses of race? somewhere the legal conversation has to catch up with what's happening out here on these streets. >> your take on this story before talking about jones, as well, when you have the prosecutor calling it just a perfect storm of human error and then looking and seeing a comparison of a pistol and that of a pellet gun and they look very, very similar to some. they say even those who are used to and know a lot about guns, your take on that when they say, you know what? this is a matter of human error.