when you talk about how scary -- first of all, there is a question about are americans scared independent from how politicians and the media talk about the threat. i don't think you could divide those two, right? clearly we spend a lot of time talking about the threat. clearly it is terrifying to consider going to a holiday party and find yourself shot and killed by someone engaged in what seems like completely evil massacre out of the blue. totally random. same thing for the people sitting in the cafè, right? anything like that is a horrible thing to contemplate. it happens a lot more in the middle east than it happens here, we should note. >> or if you're going to everyday iraq, you're 5 years old and you're going to school. >> the question is, does the sort of talk about the fear -- michael, your point there about -- to me, gets at something i kept hearing about the speech last night and connects to the donald trump thing. the question is, do you want leaders to speak to that fear? do you want them to say it's okay to feel afraid but i'm going to make you not feel afraid. do you want to stoke that? listen to one of the things that