be concerned about the people of vermont instead of the idiot at 1.5% saying stupid things. you don't take the bait. >> most of the time you don't. the problem is the refugees, what's been said about the refugees is really an attack on the united states constitution and who we are. we're a nation of immigrants and the idea that we should suddenly -- this is exactly what we did to the jews in 1938 and 1939. roosevelt didn't want to let in a whole lot of jewish refugees in the country. we know what the result was. for obama to push back on this, i'm with mika that's the right thing for the president to do is sho moral leadership instead of hatred. >> the president is presenting this as an either or. you can speak out strongly against isis and say we'll defeat and destroy them and going to be aggressive and seem to be standing shoulder to shoulder with your ally that's