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"news max" magazine did a beautiful shot, same clothes, everything, and it was just done on purpose. >> i know. >> and to me, that was a sexist move. because they wouldn't do that to a man. they would only do something like that to a woman. and the thing is, you rise above it. and that's what i see carly fiorina doing. rising above these kind of things. and i think that's good, because she's a professional, she's not going to get caught up in it, and i think that that speaks really well for her as a woman. >> well, i wouldn't rise above it, because i don't believe in rising above things, because "new york times" magazine did it to me. they hired a guy from germany at $10,000 bucks come over here and spend hours until they got the shot they wanted, me laughing in a foolish way, they got it and did it and got it on the cover. it's not just against women, it's what it is. it's some kind of people out there that are not very nice. former michele bachmann, by the way, retirement from the house has done you good. you look great tonight. thank you for coming here.