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trying to do is draw contrast with bernie sanders and say, if you put him up, he's going to have to answer the question that anderson cooper just asked him in any debate and interview he's in. if you put me up, don't worry, i'm going to defend capitalism. >> the fact they're having a conversation about capitalism, i mean, this hasn't happened in this country in a very long time. hillary clinton is essentially taking what she called a new new deal approach. it's going way back to -- >> the new deal was declared to be socialism by all of its opponents. >> right. exactly. but she is -- >> and it was mostly socialism. >> she is willing under pressure from bernie sanders to go back to these very old be debates that new democrats, like her husband bill clinton, tried to get away from. you didn't see bill clinton in 1992 debating capitalism. saying we have to save capitalism from itself. she's, even though her positions

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