i think we continue to try to do everything we can focusing primarily, by the way, as bad as assad is, focusing on trying to defeat isis. and let me say this, and i don't know -- >> you didn't support his isis program. you didn't vote to authorize it. why is that? >> well, because i am worried about american troops getting sucked into a never ending war in the middle east and particularly in iraq and syria. but let me also say this, this is the other reason why i've been very hesitant. i don't think the united states can or should be doing it alone. not our troops who -- i've gone to too many funerals in the state of vermont, nor our taxpayers, the wars in afghanistan, iraq, cost us 44-trillion to $6 trillion. i believe very strongly that saudi arabia, kuwait, qatar, they're going to have to get their hands dirty as well. they don't like isis, let them start putting troops on the ground. saudi arabia, people don't know this, has the third-largest defense budget in the entire