he's running for president, not overly concerned at least right now with jeb bush and what he's doing and an interesting nuance and getting questions from the media on those attendance numbers and figures. >> i'm sorry to interrupt you but, yes, may be the case, the reality behind the political facade if you will but i think people don't necessarily see that when they see somebody who's an understudy to somebody else. they're looking at it as how could you do that to them? their gut reaction is to say, how could rubio do this to bush and don't necessarily believe that they really do like each other so when trump says that i think it really hits a nerve with a lot of people and somebody speaking the truth. is it true? in reality, i have no idea. you veal a better idea from that. >> right. right. >> i have to let jordan get in. wait. >> sorry, kate. >> it is okay. i love the conversation. but poor jordan is covering jeb