strengthen their relationship and build even more of a bridge between -- there's already quite a bridge between the u.s. and the vatican. >> yeah, i think it certainly could. there will be only four people in the oval office, the president, the pope, and two translators. and to george's point, there are obviously some social issues that divide the president and the pope, given the pope's faith and his pronouncement of various tenants of his faith, but i suspect that they have a wonderful relationship, it looks as if they have a wonderful relationship. i think what comes out of this trip, when people pause to think about it after the pope leaves, part of it will be his itinerary. who this pope is is defined by where he's going. in the bronx, here in new york, jim dwyer, "the new york times" had a list of the occupations of people the pope would meet with this. immigrants, some here legally, some here not. car washers, farmers, migrant workers, day laborers. in philadelphia, he's going to the largest city jail in philadelphia to meet with