us. on that matt damon/effie brown thing. we've all been the only one when we're in the room. you saw for a second on camera, because the other panelists kind of jumped in agreeing with matt. you see her thought bubble like, you know what? i'm not going to argue. she just kind of gave up. we've all been there being the only one in the room. that really hit me hard transcending just hollywood. >> part of the reason to not be the only person in the room, part of it is sort of the voice but the other thing is we don't all agree with each other. i have a very diverse staff except for there aren't verisome men. vast majority of women, lots of women of color and they disagree. i mean sometimes like it gets real around the disagreement but that's part of what we hope brings whatever value we have in the show. >> that's what makes television and movies exciting. you go back to the box office and you say like oh, well these films, they actually gli money. the perfect guy, they won the