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you cannot promise what you can't deliver, but that's politics. so we know that. i think to arthur's key point, and this is what i love about his book and heilly recommend people read it, it is the aspirational aspect. you want to understand donald trump. it's more about the aspirations he is bringing out of people, someone who is being authentic and real and at least giving me a sense that they're willing to fight for something i believe in or something i want. so a lot of the stuff that both of you are talking about does not -- is not cheapened, lessened or unimportant. to arthur's point, you've got to begin to turn fraes phrase, to bring people's attention to the idea that we will and will do better. we can be better and grow from there. then you get into the policy because that becomes real important. then it's a guns butter argument. >> you touched on donald trump. i want to go back to this morning's headline about donald trump. new reaction from gop presidential candidate chris

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