i think i could sell it. >> also benefit to the environment. >> that's overstated. air conditioning doesn't really -- heating is actually worse. the other side of this story is, if women like it a littl >> maybe we see compromise. >> but heating in the winter causes much more environmental impact. >> maybe we women can have it cooler in the winter and warmer in the summer and we can meet in middle grounds. >> we can meet over a gas fire and sing songs like in "rocky." >> i'll bring in a jacket. mike, always good to see you. thank you for joining me. that is all in for this evening. the rachel maddow show starts now. >> i have never been cold. >> that's because you're wearing a jacket. >> that's true.