established in some of these places. you have other immigrants exploiting other immigrants, right? which is not the sort of dichotomy that we're used to seeing. and the sort of very open transparent stereotyping and exploitive behavior from certain ethnic groups upon other ethnic groups. i guess i wonder how unusual is that and how do you begin to unwind that? >> i would actually push back against this. the fact of the matter is a lot of the owners of nail salons are people who work in those nail salons 20 30 years ago, and gradually made their way up. i think the fact is that now koreans are the owners. but to be able to characterize this in sort of this racial division frame, i think it's a little bit difficult. >> do you think that was a fault of the "new york times" piece? it certainly does suggest that. >> i think that it is a fault. and i would say that as an attorney who has represented nail salon workers i represented a korean a chinese,
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