you want to stand up for. >> why are we doing a trade deal with bernai? we are the biggest customer on the face of the earth. people need to do business with us. >> yes, they do. >> so that's a different part. let me just say -- >> don't we want to help developing countries around the world? >> let me just get this word in genevieve. you make a very important point and that argues for a tougher deal. this deal is not completed yet. all i'm saying is that hillary can take a principled position that isn't looking like he's waffling. she wants more information -- >> and i disagree with na. >> she wants to know whether or not the deal can be tougher -- >> i think there's enough information for elizabeth warren there ought to be enough information for hillary clinton. if there's enough information for every single union in this country to across the board unanimously say no to this deal there's enough information to give an absolute yes or no. i respect both of you, i disagree with your opinions.