we have a senior editor for politics, she has been covering the investigation from the very beginning. sheaf was in newark yesterday. let me start with we had bill baroni's friend on a little while ago. he was suggesting to me the defense are likely to hear from bill baroni in all this. it's look the prosecutors are alleging and wildstein is admitting to a fake traffic study. the fake traffic study was the pretense for the shutdown and it was how they were going to cover it up. baroni is going to be claiming i never knew it was fake. i thought this was a real legitimate traffic study. what do you make of that defense? >> it's his chosen path that wildstein is a liar. he fooled me. the problem for bill baroni is there is all the documentary evidence, i mean we know that he ignored the phone calls, for