to use his language, a perception problem by reckless reporting. >> he's done better than he did in previous interviews where he left open the question whether discrimination against lgbt people in indiana would be allowed. he tried to clean that up. the issue of perception no matter what he did today, you're going to see democrats make this about discrimination. they are going to say this is not a religious issue, purely a discrimination issue. we know democrats will be pushing republicans to weigh in on social issues. for someone like jeb bush this is something if he goes into a general election and wants to present himself as being a more moderate republican will hangover his head. >> julie pace and chris cillizza, we appreciate your time. joining me now, the ceo of sales force.com and one of the companies operating in indiana to take action after the religious freedom bill was