iraqi and sunni fighters liberating their country, other fighters legitimately sunnis. we don't live in a perfect world and the world we live in now it pears ha options. either we get involved or let iran take car of business. neither of tho options are good. they are both bad. the question is, what options do we have. the iraqis are not capable of liberating the country on their own. not the shiites or sunnis or the nonaffiliated. look what is going on in tikrit right now. we're not one day away from taking tikrit. >> are you seeing a role for u.s. ground forces? >> this is my problem. if we don't commit u.s. ground forces, what is the alternative? if someone can come up with an alternative to that that works and makes sense, again, i'm all for that. i think the problem is we seem to be going through every option and exhausting all of the options and they don't seem to