emwazi then flew to amsterdam where they later claimed a british recruiting officer tried to recruit him as a spy. he then rurchd to the uk but left after a few months to move back to kuwait. he visited britain two times, and planned to go back to kuwait, bus his visa was denied. in sometime around 2012 or 2013 he went to syria. so where is mohammed emwazi now? and how did he become in notorious terrorist? and how can he be stopped? joining he now is michael kay, retired senior british officer and military strategist now a feern affairs correspondent. thank you for being here. >> hi rev. >> michael, this is an educated man who came from a middle-class family. what does that say about who is being attracted to isis?