this stuff is still going on in pakistan, no less. which is supposed to be a government that we work with to combat this. how do you grade the campaign against terror and isis. >> i greade it incomplete. because largely much of the resources, the u.s. and the world, unfortunately is focussing on the military. i think it is important but we need to talk about the ideas and then invest in the things that not only the state departments and development agszs do but charities and others. i wrote a book called prosperity agenda about how you defeat these ideologies, you get serious about what people care about, security, educating their children, and a sense of dignity and decency and we have lost that in our drone campaigns.