he was right there in the room wearing the black hood. >> he calls it in the clip that i had seen and so few of the clips of enhanced interrogation techniques, does he actually use the word "torture"? >> he uses the word "torture" when he sees the word "torture." the realtor t torture is what t islamic state did to the captives that it held. >> including waterboarding james foley, as we know, which doesn't count as realtor tur. >> that he actually said he felt really horrible about that, really horrible about what the islamic state did, that the waterboarding that james foley and others were subject to, but he claimed the media. he said it's the media's fault