and getting that report out there, it is saying to the current cia and saying to the next 20 years of people going into the cia, we're going to be on you. a few decades down the line or at some point down the line, this is going to come up again in the cia. there's going to be some kind of terrorist threat where this kind of question comes up again. what kind of tactics should we use now that we've been hit in this way or now that we face this challenge? and i think what the senators are trying to do today was lay this marker down in such a way that they will always remember. their chants today, their bumper sticker today was "never again." >> i agree with you about their intent and it was commendable. i'm glad they did it. at the same time, the united states imprisons more of citizens than any other country. we believe if we don't punish