border are fleeing violence like refugees around the world. the big question is whether they should be granted asylum and what exactly it means for america if they are. joining me now, leslie velez, united states high commission of refugee senior protection officer. miss velez, the call from u.n. hgr today to consider these children showing up as refugees, what motivated that? >> well, thanks for having us. the message has not changed. we've been sending the same message since we've completed our report and our assessment in may of 2014. march of 2014, i'm sorry. so what we did was in 2013, we interviewed over 400 of the children in the context of these flows. we saw a lot of indicators which were red flags for the u.n. refugee agency, a 712% increase in number of asylum applications, el salvador, honduras, guatemala, to