against, is that at the end of the day, the governor is in control, and he is not saying anything at this point. >> why did -- where did this come from? seems like such a -- to people watching from the outside seems like a truly twisted and cruel bizarre turn for any public agency to take, to turn off people's water in the 21 numb century in the united states of america. what -- why is this happening? >> can i submit to you that the same reasons why hobby lobby doesn't want to pay for health care, the same reason why they fought right wingwwñ?ñ?ñ?ñ? cons fought unemployment extension, the same reason why they shut the government down many times, the same reason why they won't raise the minimum wage. i mean, this is because of greed. this is disenfrance characterizement, privatization, and at the end of the day, it's only going to further push americans into abject poverty. >> so, the situation right now