mika. we have watched this guy eight years now. i've never seen a less engaged look in his eyes. he almost seemed, i don't want to say checked out because that is not the right thing, but watching him, his cadence was different. he feels like he almost wants to go home at this point. >> i guess that is one way you could see it. >> just watching. >> that's fine. and he does seem tired but, bobby, i also think he is getting so much criticism for every move he makes on the middle east while, if someone else or if the critics were making those decisions, they perhaps might be making the same ones. >> yes. one of the criticisms -- >> unless you're mccain and lindsey graham and dick cheney. >> the unfair he doesn't leave a force in iraq. he wanted to. the iraqis wouldn't have it. it's not like he didn't want to. if he had his druthers there would be up to 30,000 troops and the number discussed 30,000 troops left in iraq.