rove also said the democrats are wasting time talking about the bush administration lying their way into iraq. >> the far left says that you and bush and everybody involved with it did it on purpose. you knew the war on weapons of mass destruction and they are never going to get out of that. >> that's an old argument that really we waste time on because -- >> we waste time. >> because people on the other side who looked at the same intelligence came to the same conclusion, including people like al goer and bill clinton -- >> and bill o'reilly as well. >> no, no, it's not an argument. facts are facts and you can't change them. come on, karl, again. what were they told and who told them? >> we're not wasting time talking about the bush administration lying this country into a war. you can't blame members of congress for making a decision based on faulty intelligence, cooking the books.