honest judges and free elections, but underneath that surface is a floored and malevolent bureaucracy that mostly keeps the rich and poor separate through thousands of tiny, scarcely visible inequities. joining me now, matt taibbi author of "the divide, american injustice and age of the wealth cap" which debuted in the top ten of the new york best-seller's list. a big constitutional premise we're all supposed to be equal under the law. >> right. >> when you look how the law's applied, hsvc launders millions of dollars for drug cartels, nothing happens. first time offenders locked up for months, years decades. feels like the justice system, the law does not treat everybody equally. >> true. we have the law and under the law we're all equal but there's a problem of prosecutorial discretion where there's wiggle