is by putting a price on the carbon. and in order to e ensure that the government doesn't grow, that the government doesn't expand the size, scope and power of the federal government, every dime we raise should be rebated through taxpayers, tax cuts on income. it's silly that we tax things we want more of like hard works, but we don't want things less of. definitely want less of or we probably want less of. but we want more income. so let's stop taxing the good things and start switching to tax the bad. >> the talk in 2010 was that the big tradeoff would make get some republicans, more oil drilling, more natural gas, nuclear power, maybe that would get republicans to go with the cap and trade. now maybe if you have a carbon tax, do you see any combination here to get republicans to support something like this?