this is not effective pr. this is the worst, most grotesque kind of orwellian propaganda. we haven't seen this kind of big lie since the darkest days of the cold war. and by the way, going back to jim's report. we have to be very, very careful about accepting the russian version of what's happening there. there has been a poll just within the past week that shows that a large majority of the russian-speaking ukrainians, in fact, want to be part of a unified and independent ukraine. so there is a lot of mischief being made by the russian side, including in the area of propaganda. >> obviously the people you would see on the streets and the people who would be most vocal would be the russian minority, or the russian speakers in eastern ukraine who want to support the russians. >> there's another thing, too. because of the sort of fraught intimacy of these two countries, which were one country not that