about -- to be sort of sound like he was pro-immigration. this is not a part where the base feels comfortable with. i wasn't sure what jeb was trying to do in those comments. he made them very frank and very honest, and he also came out for common core, which is an education proposal that's basically a national education standard. that also very unpopular with the conservative base. he sounds to me like someone who wants to be president but maybe doesn't want to run in the republican primary for president where you have to be more conservative than that if you want to do well. >> a lot of people want to be president without the primary. >> it's actually true. i think is he trying to be the adult in the room sort of thing, and use the moral language to try to help push the idea of immigration reform forward, but, you know, really i want to talk to you about the mchutchin decision, which i find rather frightening in temz of its implications for the future. obviously i think republicans will benefit a little bit more than democrats, but ultimately the rich will benefit a lot more than the middle class in terms