are you seeing that programs are or aren't enough around them? let us know on facebook or of course you can e-mail it. we are going to bring you a different perspective on this challenge every day this week. today, we look at the obama administration's response. and for that, i turn to katherine lehmann, assistant secretary for civil rights at the office that released this startling study. katherine, thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks so much for having me, ronan. >> this report included a staggering look at suspensions, starting as early as preschool. why are schools suspending 4-year-olds? >> we don't know the answer to that question. what we know from the data is that they are and it's startling numbers and it's startling numbers that are disproportionately tipping in favor against really students of color. >> three times the suspensions for students of african-americans i think specifically, is that right? >> that's right. at preschool, black students are 18% of our preschool students