said they talked about immigration reform. but also that he talked to others, the president, talked to others at the vatican about the contraception issue, how that's affecting the affordable care right now in this country. >> he spoke with the secretary of state so it wasn't just the conversation with the pope, which is important. it was also secretary kerry's conversations with people and president obama's conversations with other in the vatican. so it's the begin og of a good relationship, it sounds like. >> it seems like the emphasis here is not on, obviously not on what do they disagree about, but they clearly are people who are looking to find the largest areas that they can agree on. >> absolutely. and it's so fortunate at the international level that there be agreement, because there's so many flash points in our world these days where i think that collaboration between the u.s. and the vatican can really help move peace forward. that is really the key we need to look at.