i think some people on the right of politics in our nation wanted them to have a fight or be contentious. but the fact is that the heart of the christian message is about those who are left out. and the pope is focused on it, and the president is keenly aware of income diversity -- or disparity in our nation. and that is a shared concern. >> father, he said the president said they talked about immigration reform. but also that he talked to others, the president, talked to others at the vatican about the contraception issue, how that's affecting the affordable care right now in this country. >> he spoke with the secretary of state so it wasn't just the conversation with the pope, which is important. it was also secretary kerry's conversations with people and president obama's conversations with other in the vatican. so it's the begin og of a good relationship, it sounds like. >> it seems like the emphasis here is not on, obviously not on