>> there are a lot of libertarians there as well. >> lots and lots. >> this is a live picture -- i can't make out who es oo on the stage right now. but this is a live picture as they wrap up things there in maryland. >> it's a lot of young people, a lot of white people as well. >> that is undeniable. i don't know if you saw the picture from earlier in the week of the minority outreach forum that was conducted -- >> that title alone is -- >> but the room itself was empty. did you see -- i don't think we have a picture of the image. lynn, did you see that picture? >> no, i did not. >> did you get over to cpac, by the way? >> no, not this year. but i've been in the past. and it's always been youth oriented. and that's been a remarkable point. but for some activists and potential activists, this has been a point of entry. it's also a big social networking event, too, for a lot of republican young people who want to get internships or just get into the -- into different