newspaper. thank you for being with us. >> always great to be here. >> so paul nunziato, the port authority political union leader who says that he came up with the traffic study idea in the first place now says, actually, i didn't. i was saying that to keep my friends happy. it wasn't true. how important is that? >> it's important. it does, as you say, it seems to undercut the whole premise of a traffic study, but i think it's quite a while since anybody thought there was any traffic study to begin with, particularly mr. wisniewski or senator weinberg who co-chair the investigative committee. just as a point of clarification, i think what -- if you go back and look, baroni wanted to intimate that a traffic study was nunziato's idea, but i think what paul, the president of the union will tell you, is that he approached wildstein with some concerns about traffic, some concerns about whether or not you would improve the flow of the main approach to the bridge if you limited the local access to the bridge from ft. lee. i don't know if he would go so far as to say it was his idea to conduct a traffic study. >> well, now he says it wasn't