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to be able to think statistically and problem listicly. >> i'm going to jump in on the evidence and say there's a lot of evidence on climate change, what do you make of that, why is that hard for people to understand the facts on that? >> well, some of it is willful ignorance, some of it is that it is complicated. some of it is that people have trouble thinking statistically, you know, they think anecdotally and personally, and so to get some distance and perspective on something that has a lot of, as scientists would say, noise in the system, is difficult, but also, there has been active disinformation. i mean, the koch brothers and have others have spent millions to sow the seeds of doubt about climate change, just as decades ago the tobacco companies with the link between smoking and

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