sanctions in place against the government there. clearly, in retrospect he was following a more prudent path. it's not clear he's being told now to take a tougher line with russia. it's not clear if he gets more bell cos because americans don't have an appetite for any sort of involvement over there. >> americans have little to no appetite for involvement over there. we have little ability to control what goes on on russia's doorstep. if putin sends troops into ukraine, some will say well, we must defend ukraine. we must do the same. i don't imagine any appetite for americans to put boots on the ground to counter what putin would do. >> no possible way. going into the black sea, are you kidding me? it's a choke point. a lot of problems. no way to even consider logistically supporting it. so i think what we've -- you know, we can agree upon is the principals.