marriage is prohibited in so many state constitutions, the only way it is legalized is through another popular vote or through a court decision regarding the federal constitution. i think you're going to see more and more of that movement unless the supreme court sweeps in and legalizes gay marriage everywhere and makes the issue moot. i think for a long time, gay rights campaigners got used to saying things shouldn't go to the ballot box. that these things shouldn't be put to a vote and they're going to have to get quite comfortable going to the ballot box because -- unless the courts come in, that will be the only way to advance marriage equality in a lot of the remaining states. >> i want to come back to the issue of going to the ballot box and some interesting results from the 2012 election and stuff coming up on the horizon in 2014. i want to start also with the court side, to keep on that for a second. josh marshall of talking points memo.com, he wrote, he looked at the decision in utah, he looked at this ruling in ohio, and he basically said that judicial -- in terms of the courts, the clock has really sped up because