i have a vision that hillary is less into the first lady thing than others. is that right or wrong? >> that's absolutely wrong. that was my impression too. i thought she was going to be not so into it. she had other things little bit. but she really recreated christmas every year and she was spectacular. >> good. >> i love some of these photos from the '80s in your wachovia. the reagans like to bring a surprise celebrity santa the house every year. larry hagman from "dallas",dom dell owe weise, mr. t. kelly freaking out about it. tell us how they brought hollywood flair. >> i love mrs. reagan and that mr. t shot. it was so much fun. nancy brought a lot of glitz and glaum our to the white house after the carters. she really you said the game and it was really amazing and so many trees and everything was gold. and it was really great. >> well, and colleen, talk about -- how do the different