you have high cost of living areas like my own area of new york, you're making minimum wage. you simply cannot make ends meet. >> so the way a lot of people make ends meet is food stamps and they help to feed one in seven americans. right now those folks on food stamps are waiting to hear how much they'll be cut. as you well know this is the central issue in negotiations over the farm bill. the house wants to slash nearly $40 billion. democrats on the senate side a $4 billion reduction. republicans say they're just trying to rein in out of control costs. are we going to have a bill by the end of the year? and if we do, what's it going to look like? >> i hope we have a bill because i thinks very important. it's not only the whole food stamps issue but other issues as well. for years the farm bill contained two components and one of them is the s.n.a.p. program or food stamps. what the republicans in the house attempted to do was split it off and cut it severely. and that's just not something i