>> here's where the parallel i think is between the rather story, the national guard story we talked about at the top of the program. it's that, were the shoe on the other foot, this would be a huge story, right? if this were some liberal, you know, pet liberal issue that was then debunked by a witness who had essentially lied or appears to have lied, or at least told the fbi something else, i remember in the midst of that storm, that was like the biggest story out there. and the ability of the right-wing echo machine to turn it into the biggest story in the world -- and again, it was in the midst of a campaign, you know, you're talking about the president's service record. obviously, these are intense things, but i still think that what we're seeing in some ways in the fall of this is the asymmetry of the pressure on the right and the left around issues like this. >> yeah, i think that's absolutely right. so, not only -- so, the "times" speculated this morning that one of the issues here was the right was much louder in the rather case. he was kind of a pinata for the