govern. that could be a powerful message. that's a powerful message in the general. how powerful is that in a primary? i'm not sure it works to either christie's advantage and arguably even to hillary clinton's advantage. it's a question mark. >> it's interesting, the "washington most" has a very provocative piece talking about are the clintons subtly talking p the dysfunction in washington and taking small shots at president obama. >> maybe he's overreading it and maybe he's not but they do have a different philosophy on how to work these things a little bit. my question, jackie, how does somebody with the last name of clinton able to project the future and able to project the idea there isn't going to be polarization. that's her great challenge. >> i agree. it was her challenge in 2007-2008. >> ultimately she was seen as part of the past. >> absolutely. and, you know, you had -- i just find it almost humorous to pick up the "post" and read this