the same exact job, we're never going to get to parity and the place that we have to be. >> we got into a big discussion, my team did when they were talking about doing this segment, and they were reminded of one of the episodes of the great "west wing." let me play you a little clip. >> a new amendment we vote on declaring that i am equal under the law to a man, i am mortified to discover there is reason to believe i wasn't before. i am a citizen of this country. i am not a special subset in need of your protection. i do not have to have my rights handed down to me by a bunch of old, white men. >> so, camilla, how do you respond to women, even a fictional one, who think the 14th amendment which defines who is a u.s. citizen is enough, we don't need an e.r.a. >> i think that's what all of us thought until a couple of years ago, our supreme court justice scalia made very clear that the word "male" was used in the