shutdown. >> many of them are republicans -- conservative republicans that are being directly impacted and furloughed by this shutdown. when you look at this, cynthia. 1995, the showdown was a disaster. but back in '95, 56% said the shutdown was a crisis and had major problems. now it's 67%. and the results from the '95 shutdown was clinton won re-election in '96. democrats gained seats in the house in both '96 and '98. finally newt gingrich resigned as speaker after the republican losses. it was not that long ago. boehner and some of them were there, yet they seem to not get this could be worse for them. >> they are paralyzed.