up once today. >> yeah. >> i heard people talk about killing somebody when the doors come open. i come out to defend myself. i'm not dying in here. >> i can understand that. >> if it's between him and me, i'm sorry about his [ bleep ] luck. that's what happened. that's all there is to it. i didn't -- that's -- >> was it the same guy that made the comment? >> i'm not going to build a case for you. >> at this time, we're going to end the statement. >> 2,200 people in here for different things. a lot of them in here for murder. long time, big time. you could walk down the street tomorrow and get beat up. you could get stabbed just walking down the street. it's just -- it happens. >> back in the 1980s when major cabanaw patrolled isp as a correctional officer, he experienced such violence firsthand. >> i've been assaulted, yeah. i fought for my life a couple of times. we had three offenders back in the back with knives. and the only thing i had when i went back there was one of the guys in the cage give me a cut-off mop stick.