what's happening on the democratic side. in particular, ted cruz is going to be at this event in iowa today. the head of the group family leader that runs this, bob vannederplats. his claim to fame he was with mike huck key and he won the state. he was with rick santorum who won the state. 60% will be evangelical christians. this is ground zero for evangelical christians in iowa. he said about ted cruz, he's never seen anything like it before, like the appeal of ted cruz. i'm wondering what you make of the phenomenon, perry. >> i'm not surprised by it. one of my views about this, the republicans are looking someone on their ticket who is not a white guy. there's going to be somebody on the ticket that's not a white